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Why would you spend time and money developing drivers for products no longer making you money? I know, any decent company would stand behind their products and continue to develop drivers and so on but with most out to do a smash and grab there's no point bothering any more. As I mentioned here and elsewhere in another thread about sound cards Creative have now got their drivers right.

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It had been many years since I'd had any sound card I mean stand alone not Realtek that worked like that. Sound cards these days are quite overrated. I advise against this unless all you do is listen to music and watch movies.

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Some games just flat out refused to see it so I had no sound. It just shows that Creative are looking out for their customers where many do not by even supplying Windows 10 drivers for soundcards that are over 10 years old i. The technology hasn't changed, which is why I guess they can release drivers for cards so old.

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It's just that they've finally got their heads around software sound acceleration. If every other app see's it there's no reason a game wouldn't.

The Xonar Phoebus is still for sale. To be honest, Asus have only just anounced its replacement. As for why would a company offer product support past its initial life cycle, customer service!

Should a 3 year old processor, motherboard or graphics card be left without driver updates for a newer OS? I asked OCUK customer service and they said once the last few Phoebus cards sell they will not be getting them back in stock, As of right now they have 2 left, Same story with Scan.

They will be replaced by the new Strix audio range later in the year. So these cards should still be supported with up to date drivers. End of shelf life should not mean end of product life.

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That's all I was Creative Live! Cam Socialize HD 1080 (VF0680) Webcam at, there are more companies every day ceasing support for products that are nearing the end of their shelf life. To me it seems wrong, I understand if the product has been out of cycle for a few years, but this is terrible. SuB Sold my Phoebus yesterday, [ It's funny because Creative had major issues like this with their X-FI series in Vista and a little bit in Win 7, it was commonly known as SCP snap crackle pop until if I recall correctly, they hired some guy who was making third party drivers that were better than theirs to come in and sort it.

Probably one of the reasons they dropped the X-Fi that uses hardware decoding Creative Live! Cam Socialize HD 1080 (VF0680) Webcam sound and moved to the far worse Recon3D based cards including the ZXR that are just software based. Well I did in two games. There are no drivers with them either, which is strange.

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God only knows how it would have got on in Win 10, but that doesn't matter because I run mine in Line mode now any way which is what is advised generally. It's nice that way, because I get to use my snazzy sound card: Phoebus is a very old product now.

Though it may still be 'for sale' per se that does not mean that it is a current Asus product and they are still making them. However, Asus no longer make them they have now dropped that line and switched to the Strix stuff. I would strongly imagine that Asus do not have a 'in house' software dev team coding and updating drivers for them.

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As I mentioned before it's far more likely they go to a chip maker and buy the design from them, then put their branding on. I could be wrong, but going on how utterly awful their drivers are and how long updates took IIRC there was only one update for my D2X and it still didn't work I would say that Asus do not actually code the drivers.

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